Our edited version of this question in Motif, due to word limit, I believe reads differently and doesn’t address an important point, Asking the right Question. As this was the actual purpose in Drbrilliantcliche blog in the first place I thought it important enough to print the Original unedited version here:
Dear C and Dr. B,
Twenty-five years ago, my marriage crashed and burned which left me in a deep state of depression. I sought help from a therapist who put me in contact with a psychiatrist who prescribed an anti-depressant. At first, several different medications were tried and dosages tweaked till I settled on a daily dose of 50 mg of Zoloft. My PCP continued to prescribe Zoloft over the next two decades with very little inquiry into how effective it was or how it may be affecting my general health. As it were, the anti-depressant did help to lessen depressive moods and decrease anxiety during emotional or health crises. During day to day living, it also shrank the boundaries of emotional highs and lows; both less gloom and less joy gave me the feeling of living a static emotional life. Because of this effect, I had attempted on several occasions to stop taking Zoloft. The advice given by my PCP was little more than “don’t stop abruptly, go slow”. I tried many withdrawal strategies: splitting pills, ingesting every other day, etc. Sometimes I managed to stay off the medication for months while other times it was only for several weeks. It was only after reading about the technique of micro-dosing that I was able to slowly wean myself off of Zoloft … nearly. After several months of Covid isolation I found myself unsuccessfully dealing with extreme anxiety and so turned back to the magic blue pills. Based on my experience with anti-depressants, I believe that 1) doctors are overeager to prescribe anti-depressants rather than suggesting alternative therapies, 2) patients receive little, if any, instruction on their physiological function, dosage, and side effects, and 3) there is a lack of useful followup with patients who have been taking these medications for extended periods of time. Thus, patients are often left on their own to seek advice and help via online medical forums since their PCP is not equipped to offer practical and accurate information; often the information gleaned from online sources is pure quackery leading to ineffective, if not dangerous, use of these powerful drugs.
My question is, do you share my analysis and concerns on the over prescription of anti-depressants, insufficient oversight of a patient’s experience with these drugs (especially over an extended period of time), and the general failure of our health care system to provide the necessary information to their patients on the proper use of anti-depressants.
Randall
Dear Randall,
I have two sets of answers to this question. One, I will stick to only to what you asked. Two, I will address asking the right question.
Answer number one:
If you adhere to the DSM5 (the book doctors use to define mental illness based on symptom presentation alone) definition of depression then most people who would meet the criteria for major depression in fact never get diagnosed or treated for Major Depression. Current scientific studies show actually vast under diagnosis and under treatment for depression in the USA rather than over diagnosis and over treatment. In our current psychopharmacologic model or treatment for mental illness It doesn’t differentiate treatment by Nurse practitioner, Family DR. or Psychiatrist and in some states even psychologists. All are licensed to diagnose and treat the same. As for medical follow up and education regarding cost vs benefits of medications/ Alternatives/ side effects / risks of treatment / how long treatment should continue/ any and all providers should be providing this information if they are prescribing medications. This was a failure of your specific treatment providers not the system in general. It is the current recommendation that if you have had more than 3 episodes of major depression then you should stay on the medication that helped you forever at the dose that helped you to regain your baseline functioning. This is based on the statistic that if you have had 3 previous episodes of major depression there is a 90% chance of another. Medical depression “Major Depression” isn’t just sadness it’s a sever decrease in functionality along with a list of other “symptoms” that makes the threshold for “the disease” as described in the DSM5.
Medications aren’t magic happy pills. There are no legal happy pills. Antidepressant’s just decrease emotional stimuli as you described and they increase your brains ability to be flexible. They also seem to decrease toxic empathy which is related to depression. Medications do not reformat your brain. The moment you stop them in about 2 weeks from then your brain will function exactly the same as before you ever took the medications thus often symptoms return as you yourself experienced.
It is the current recommendation that if psychiatric medications are prescribed, counseling should accompany as well. Feeling better and being better are not the same thing. This is because medications do not create skills. If skills are not acquired any feeling better you might have achieved from medication will be temporary as you just kicked the problems down the line. Studies show that if you just take medications alone and acquire no skills to address your life’s issues then in 10 years your life quality will be worse than before you ever took the medications in the first place.
I am glad your medications are helping you to feel better.
Answer number two:
Although this is a good question it’s the wrong question. In today’s psychopharmacological medical paradigm, we are told once a medication is established leave it be as removing it risks return of symptomology. So, whether family doctor, Nurse or psychiatrist would have been of the same end. The problem with the paradigm to begin with is that most diagnosis are large heterogeneous groups so most “evidence based” recommendations are more true for economic reasons than for actual true reality reasons. The right questions are: Do you like yourself on this medication? Do you effect the people around you better on this medication than off of it? And are you functioning better in a life that suits you on it vs functioning better in a life that’s ill matched for you? And are the side effects tolerable as there inevitably will be some price to pay?
Medications don’t make one happy that’s Marketing BS. They give you distance from emotional stimuli and turn down empathy as to much empathy is toxic and related to depression. Medications might free you to be yourself or they might allow you to function in a life that is ill suited for who you are and this will inevitably implode anyway. After 19 years on Zoloft can you not stop as you are one of those whom the medication allowed for you to live as a square peg in a round hole? If so, you will not be able to stop it and continue as such. Do the benefits out way the cost? What is the cost? Are you having side effects?
These are the questions you need to ask yourself and take to your treatment provider.
-Dr. Brilliant Cliché